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Chevy Equinox Generations Forum
3rd Gen : 2018-2024 Chevy Equinox
Towing advice ?
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<blockquote data-quote="NXR71" data-source="post: 22682" data-attributes="member: 6892"><p>Actually, I was pleasantly surprised to see you write that. Way too many people believe that the hitch capacity establishes how much a vehicle can <strong><em>safely </em></strong>tow 100% of the time and that almost is never the case. They probably were told that by a salesperson or read it in a sales brochure. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>As you noted, there are multiple factors that need considered plus others you did not mention, such as:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The SUV or truck wheelbase to trailer length<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The use of weight-distributing hitches (which are mentioned in many owner manuals as being needed to tow the up to the hitch rating but never explained)<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Safe towing speeds (which are not the interstate speed limit)<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The increased stopping distances and why a braking system on the trailer is mandatory even if not legally required. The physics of weight moving at high speeds does not care at all about man-made laws. And no, NO ONE actually tests their trailer braking system to see how effective it is; just that it's probably better than nothing.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What you're towing. Towing a 3,000 lb boat on an open trailer is very different from towing a 3,000 lb trailer with tall walls that act like a sail and can have a lot more sway.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The effect of tongue weight on the rear axle limits, often resulting in an overloaded rear axle. If you see a vehicle "squatting" when towing something it's pretty much guaranteed that the rear axle is overloaded, the vehicle itself may be overloaded, and the worst part: weight is lifted off the front tires due to the "lever effect". That makes the steering squirrely and the vehicle is just unstable to drive. Less weight on the front tires also means less braking power so the stopping distance will be even longer than they already are.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Plus others</li> </ul><p></p><p>My single door sticker is attached. The VIN is listed on the right so I will assume that mine was weighed, or at least calculated based on options and other known weights. It would be interesting if someone with a 2020 Premier AWD 2.0L checked their label and showed exactly the same "must not exceed" value because that would be unlikely to me. As mine shows, put five 200-pounders in mine and the vehicle is overloaded.</p><p></p><p>I don't even have a door jamb label showing GAWR, GVWR, and GCWR. Those limitations are only found in the Owners Manual and we all know how often people read those...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet people say "I've got a 1,500 hitch and the lawyers always have a hidden safety margin so I can tow this 2,000 lb trailer, because I want to."</p><p></p><p>It's never a problem until it is, and that's why we see trailers rolled over or splattered on the side of the road with the towing vehicle hanging in the air while still connected to the overturned trailer. If a bad sway starts you might have one or maybe two seconds to get it stopped before control is lost.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]2439[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NXR71, post: 22682, member: 6892"] Actually, I was pleasantly surprised to see you write that. Way too many people believe that the hitch capacity establishes how much a vehicle can [B][I]safely [/I][/B]tow 100% of the time and that almost is never the case. They probably were told that by a salesperson or read it in a sales brochure. :( As you noted, there are multiple factors that need considered plus others you did not mention, such as: [LIST] [*]The SUV or truck wheelbase to trailer length [*]The use of weight-distributing hitches (which are mentioned in many owner manuals as being needed to tow the up to the hitch rating but never explained) [*]Safe towing speeds (which are not the interstate speed limit) [*]The increased stopping distances and why a braking system on the trailer is mandatory even if not legally required. The physics of weight moving at high speeds does not care at all about man-made laws. And no, NO ONE actually tests their trailer braking system to see how effective it is; just that it's probably better than nothing. [*]What you're towing. Towing a 3,000 lb boat on an open trailer is very different from towing a 3,000 lb trailer with tall walls that act like a sail and can have a lot more sway. [*]The effect of tongue weight on the rear axle limits, often resulting in an overloaded rear axle. If you see a vehicle "squatting" when towing something it's pretty much guaranteed that the rear axle is overloaded, the vehicle itself may be overloaded, and the worst part: weight is lifted off the front tires due to the "lever effect". That makes the steering squirrely and the vehicle is just unstable to drive. Less weight on the front tires also means less braking power so the stopping distance will be even longer than they already are. [*]Plus others [/LIST] My single door sticker is attached. The VIN is listed on the right so I will assume that mine was weighed, or at least calculated based on options and other known weights. It would be interesting if someone with a 2020 Premier AWD 2.0L checked their label and showed exactly the same "must not exceed" value because that would be unlikely to me. As mine shows, put five 200-pounders in mine and the vehicle is overloaded. I don't even have a door jamb label showing GAWR, GVWR, and GCWR. Those limitations are only found in the Owners Manual and we all know how often people read those... Yet people say "I've got a 1,500 hitch and the lawyers always have a hidden safety margin so I can tow this 2,000 lb trailer, because I want to." It's never a problem until it is, and that's why we see trailers rolled over or splattered on the side of the road with the towing vehicle hanging in the air while still connected to the overturned trailer. If a bad sway starts you might have one or maybe two seconds to get it stopped before control is lost. [ATTACH type="full" width="389px" alt="1719410002680.png"]2439[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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3rd Gen : 2018-2024 Chevy Equinox
Towing advice ?
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