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<blockquote data-quote="eden610" data-source="post: 20967" data-attributes="member: 7567">Thanks for replying.I did not mess with the balancer chain. Should I?? everything seemed ok on it. guides looked good. chain seemed ok.In the beginning when this all started there was a ticking/tapping noise. This is what lead me to believe timing chain and started this. last year i had put new solenoids.before i did any removal of timing chain I pulled valve cover and plugs. I hand rotated engine a couple of times watching chain. As i rotated the engine, between the two phasers the chain would take a BIG dip, like one of the phasers was unlocked. After new install the BIG dip was gone. Has only one belt and i put new one.I have a 18&quot; screwdriver and did the old stick trick. It is coming from that area. The water pump is part of the balance chain and the noise is closer to it but not sure.No codes. I did pull each wiring to solenoids one at a time to maybe see if that would give a clue. nothing, did get codes for each but they went away when i reattached.Man.... one thing leads to another. Hate to keep throwing guess money at it and yet don't want to pay the outrageous mechanic prices. Most are rip-offs and today's times hard to find a decent/honest one.I guess the game must go on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eden610, post: 20967, member: 7567"] Thanks for replying. I did not mess with the balancer chain. Should I?? everything seemed ok on it. guides looked good. chain seemed ok. In the beginning when this all started there was a ticking/tapping noise. This is what lead me to believe timing chain and started this. last year i had put new solenoids. before i did any removal of timing chain I pulled valve cover and plugs. I hand rotated engine a couple of times watching chain. As i rotated the engine, between the two phasers the chain would take a BIG dip, like one of the phasers was unlocked. After new install the BIG dip was gone. Has only one belt and i put new one. I have a 18" screwdriver and did the old stick trick. It is coming from that area. The water pump is part of the balance chain and the noise is closer to it but not sure. No codes. I did pull each wiring to solenoids one at a time to maybe see if that would give a clue. nothing, did get codes for each but they went away when i reattached. Man.... one thing leads to another. Hate to keep throwing guess money at it and yet don't want to pay the outrageous mechanic prices. Most are rip-offs and today's times hard to find a decent/honest one. I guess the game must go on. [/QUOTE]

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